Dr. Andrew Moulden Says that Vaccines Cause Autism – Dr. Paul Offit Says They Don’t

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We are in an epidemic of chronic diseases — including Autism — that were rare decades ago, but today affect tens of millions of adults and fully one-half of our children. 1 Moreover, thousands of adults and children die each year from sudden unexplained causes. 2 Many doctors and scientists say that clear evidence links these health problems to vaccines and mercury.

Is history repeating itself? Consider tobacco, asbestos and lead. Even the ancient Romans knew lead was poison yet it was in our gas and paint for decades before being removed. Why was that?

For some time, substantial evidence has linked vaccines and mercury to death and major chronic diseases, including Autism. Why is this evidence being ignored?

In the case of lead in the 1920’s, the US Public Health Service tried unsuccessfully to ban it in gasoline, for the obvious reason that it’s a poison. But the voices of those with economic and political interests that profited from lead were louder. It wouldn’t be until 1986 before lead would be finally phased out.

Those profiting from it manufactured doubt to keep lead on the market and their profits coming in. When people tried to stop them – by pointing to all the health problems they were causing – the companies making the profit used their political influence to stave them off – just like they did with Asbestos and Tobacco.

Dangers to health were ignored and the companies kept making money. Profits mattered more than people, until enough voices were heard.

Are vaccines and mercury causing injury and chronic disease to the millions of children that are required by law to take them?

Is mercury in vaccines and dental fillings doing the same?

Public Affairs Media is presenting compelling evidence of measurable physiological links connecting vaccines and mercury with injury and chronic disease – including Autism.

A distinguished community of leading doctors and scientists has been raising some serious questions about the safety and consequences of vaccines and mercury.

Our film documentary will examine key issues in the ongoing controversy including:

Is there a major problem with vaccines and dental mercury?

If not. Why not?

If so, who and what are to blame?

Who should bear the responsibility?

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  1. Lynne says:

    First, no: there is no “substantial evidence” of harm; there have been HUGE studies of cohorts of vaccinated and unvaccinated kids, and there has been no statistical link between autism and vaccination. It isn’t taken seriously because there is no demonstrable link, it’s really that simple.

    Also, Moulden pushes medical bullshit. Some of what he says is simply flat wrong, it’s medical nonsense; it makes as much sense as the statement “the fatness of the pig is less fuschia than the designated hitter rule.”

    Here is one fisking of him:
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/10/vaccines_cause_microvascular_strokes_that_cause_autism.php

  2. Leslie says:
  3. Lynne says:

    Having watched that slick infomercial, Leslie, that is rather stomach-churning medical fraud.

    Autism =/= stroke; there are two distinctly different sets of symptoms and known etiologies. He is claiming, without providing any evidence, that they are the same, that any overlap of symptoms proves that they are the same, and relying on scary imagery of children to convince people. What does he have which actually -demonstrates- that the rest of the medical field is wrong, and that autism is the result of stroke rather than the developmental disorder based on cell-membrane signaling that the current best research indicates?

    And if he is claiming that autism is the result of vaccine injury is the result of microstrokes/microvascular injury:
    1. Where is the evidence of alteration of bloodflow consistent with microvascular strokes? Does he have MRI data showing this in autistic kids? If not, why not? MRIs are specifically designed for that kind of thing. Scary before-and-after pictures don’t cut it; we need rather more measurable evidence that none of the symptoms were present in those poor kids before vaccination, that the symptoms started upon vaccination, and that the cause of the symptoms is microvascular as he claims.
    2. Does he have any autopsy data from autistic kids who have died, showing evidence of stroke? Autopsy specimens from the tragic deaths of autistic children certainly exist.
    3. What –physical evidence– can he provide that vaccines cause or have in them particles large enough to clog up small blood vessels? Surely if he is making that claim he should be able to point to study and mechanism. If not, why do you consider it plausible, when no other doctor on the planet does?
    4. How does he manage to connect SIDS (which inevitably means that the baby has died) with vaccines, when his “diagnosis” requires “full face in view, eyes open, awake, alert, and responding/attending to the videographer”?
    5. How does he manage to claim that watching a -video- will diagnose “clinically silent” signs of his invented syndrome; if something is visible on video, then by definition it is not “clinically silent.” As was pointed out on the blog post which I linked to and which I suspect you haven’t read — “clinically silent” means “producing no visible or tangible symptoms” and generally detectable only with something like a blood test.
    6. How does a doctor get away with claiming that vaccines are injected “directly into the bloodstream”? That is something that I would expect a non-medical person to get confused about, but a real doctor has no such excuse; vaccines are ALWAYS injected intramuscularly or (rarely) intradermally — they are buffered by extravascular tissues and lymph, and it genuinely isn’t the same thing as “directly into the blood stream” at all. The fact that he gets basic facts wrong does not inspire confidence.

    The biggest problem, of course, is that the MRI of autistic people should show evidence of perivascular inflammation, at the very least, if his hypothesis is correct; and it doesn’t. Period. But he invokes a widespread conspiracy theory to explain this away….

    This “product” is taking advantage of people desperate for help and desperate for answers. It is preying on the desperate for profit. It’s highly unethical.

  4. Lynne says:

    Suggested reading (please do visit them):
    http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/

  5. Lynne says:

    …One final thought: autism was “rare” 4 decades ago because it wasn’t diagnosed, not because it didn’t exist; my husband and I have several adult friends who certainly match all the diagnostic criteria for autism, but no-one in Aberdeen even knew what autism was, 40 years ago.

    Autism wasn’t even an official diagnosis at all until the release of the DSM-III in 1980, and the diagnostic criteria were changed and considerably expanded in the DSM-IV of 1994. The vast majority of any increase can be directly attributable to “diagnostic substitution” — kids are diagnosed as autistic now, who previously would have been simply classed as “mentally retarded”, “developmentally delayed”, “antisocial” or possibly not diagnosed at all.

    There is more good information about it here:
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/508429

    Please consider that these are actually very good explanations for an “increase in autism”, although they may not be as thrilling or emotionally appealing as some new “plague” of brain damage.

  6. dr moulden says:

    If it enters the body – it enters the bloodstream eventually. This is not rocket science it just takes people to actually think.

    1) You eat food – it gets transported into the bloodstream.

    2. You breath – it enters the bloodstream.

    3. You are bit by a snake – you put a tourniquet around your arm/leg to stop the poison form traversing through the bloodstream.

    4. You have a cancer (outside the circulatory system) – it metastases – through the blood stream.

    5. You put a topical lotion on that you are allergic to – it enters the blood stream.
    - drug are administered IV, IM, SQ, inhalation, PR, PO,
    topical sub-lingual – it enters the blood stream.

    6. You are exposed to a pathogenic bacteria – by natural routes – it enters the blood stream.

    7. You are exposed to measles, mumps, diptheria, influenza, swine flu, polio – it enters the blood stream.

    8. You are exposed to rabies, syphillis, hepatitis, HIV, gonorrhea -heavy materials, toxins, mold, prions – it enters the blood stream.

    9. If you inject “junk” into the body, intramuscular or otherwise – it enters the blood stream.

    10. Think: If vaccines truly do what thy are supposed to do – then an intramuscular vaccination in the buttocks or arm, induces Guilliane Barre syndrome – an established and compensable fact – this is an ascending paralysis – quite removed from the injection site – something is moving through the bloodstream – perhaps you can learn hat that something is – while you are at it, you might want to try and figure out why these “ascending paralysis” patients ALSO evidence neurological compromise to motor functions controlled only by the brain: neurology 101 “where is the lesion(s)” – answer that, then you can begin answering “what has caused this problem we have attached a clinical label to.

    6. You take a sub-lingual pill (under the tonque) – it diffuses into the blood stream.

    7. You inject purified protein derivatives for Tuberculosis under the skin (subcutaneous) – it induces swelling and in duration if you are TB positive – this results from the immune system collating in the area – the immune cells get to the antigenic challenge area (outside the bloodstream) by travelling, through the blood stream.

    8. The capillary blood vessels close and become ischemic at the injection site of inoculations – this causes pain and induration – an entire cadre of dermatological veterinarians have validated this – look it up – in hypersensitivity states, from repeat vaccinations, the problems become systemic, inducing death – look it up.

    9. The Bordet phenomenon – look it up.

    10. Thrombo-hemmorhagic states from foreign matter injections – look it up (Dr Hans Selye).

    11. Arthus reactions to vaccinations – look it up.

    12. Bulbar palsies and etiology – look it up.

    13. Functional localization within the neuromotor systems -look it up. While you are at it, look up the differentials in neuro-opthalmology for bulbar palsies – including upper and lower motor neurons.

    14. Trans-cortical motor aphasia – look it up.

    15. Isolation of speech syndrome – look it up.

    16. Helical CT scans are the gold standard for detecting clinically silent pulmonary emboli based on ventilation-perfusion mis-matches – look it up; even sizeable emboli create no deficits that are detectable by any imaging currently available including the “gold standard”

    17. MRI’ are a structural imaging technology – they cannot resolve microvascular occlusive processes that involve phase changes in the microcirculation.

    18. Rheology and the physics of blood flow in immune hyperstimulated states – look it up.

    19. If you place your hand on the stove and it gets burned – the stove caused the burn. If you cannot see the burn, feel the burn, or measure the burn – you will not know you are being harmed. It matters not HOW the hot element caused the burn, the fact is that you were not burned before placing your hand on the stove, and now you are..and here is several thousand others that evidence the exact same pathology.

    One does not need to explain the physics of melting points on human tissue to validate or invalidate the tissue damages that have been caused by placing hands on hot elements anymore than one has to explain the physiological nuances of how repeat vaccinations are causing microvascular ischemic damages through brain and body. The damages are there, they are measurable, they are observable, and the pathophysiology is known and peer reviewed published – look it up.

    MRI is good to visualize down to 1 mm – the problem here is at the angstrom level – phase changes in blood constituency – this is all peer reviewed and published – look it up.

    MRI’ cannot visualize diffuse axonal injuries from sudden acceleration-deceleration injuries – there are no lesions – look it up.

    Mild head injuries that sheer axons and blood vessels and induce catastrophic functional losses along the neurocognitive spectrum – show completely normal MRI’ and sometimes disappearing minute lesions within days of injury – look it up.

    Schizophrenia – we cannot see the ischemic process either – with any/all contemporary neuroimaging -

    Dementia – cannot see the pathological sequence.

    Autism – cannot see the pathological sequence.

    Mild head injury – contemporary imaging is blind to the damages yet individuals are completely de-railed.

    Ischemic tissue is consumed by the immune system in a “clean up” mode. You cannot see footprints on the beach once the waves have come in and washed the footprints away.

    When “unknown cause of death” is due to impaired blood flow through the microcirculation

    Wild Polio induced in the body paralysis and respiratory failure – the damages were to the brain and the body. The polio patients evidenced ischeimc strokes in the same manner that children that dies from congenital rubella did (all organ systems) in the same manner that vaccination induce the same symptoms.

    A pathological state can be clinically silent (to imaging) yet clinically apparent to direct clinical skills measurement – look it up.

    Ischemic pulmonary emboli silently occur in us all during life – at death coroners detect nothing; yet meticulous and detailed histopathology with specialized staining and tools, detects clinically silent pulmonary emboli in most cadavers – look it up.

    Control of stability of blood flow and coagulation – look it up.

    Hemispheric assymetry in neurodevelopment – look it up.

    Non-Newtonian fluid dynamics – look it up.

    Mobius syndrome – look it up.

    MELAS – Mitochondrial Encephalopathy, Lactic Acidosis & Stroke – look it up.

    Autopsy reports are available – see Baby M case – look it up.

    Vaccines do not have particles – they induce a coagulopathic state, especially under states of immunological intolerance and hypersensitivity – peer reviewed and published – look it up.

    When neurological damages associated with SIDS emerge weeks and months before the infant dies, and shows clinical progression, under the care of several different care providers – this is not SIDS – unless all care providers “shake the baby”

    If shaking babies is the cause of SIDS, then someone needs to explain why there is also microvascular bleeding in the spinal column – a rigid tube, unlike the brain, which does not “shear” via intense acceleration-deceleration-rotational forces as it cannot move.

    Cranial nerve palsies are paralyses due to very specific damages within the brain – both upper and lower motor neurons. What is the differential – look it up.

    When you measure the neurological exam before you do “brain surgery” and measure the same immediately after “brain surgery” changes in function and measures of neurological integrity likely came from the brain surgery – do the same surgery 5000 times, and show the same changes across the board – cogito – brain surgery caused the problem.

    A cardiologist uses a stethoscope – to “measure” and listen to heart murmurs, palpitations, which portray patterns, which detect pathology, both of which get to cause.

    All physicians use clinical skills in their physical exams. These clinical skills diagnose pathology, cause-effect.

    How does one explain the physiological and physical properties of a raindrop to a fish that has lived its entire existence at the bottom of an Ocean surrounded by the very thing it is convinced does not exist? If the “fish” cannot see the raindrop – then explaining the details of raindrops and why they are wet will not help the fish understand and further.

    You cannot provide answers and solutions unless you can get the “fish” to see that a problem exists and here ore the “footprints” thereof.

    Since pediatric neurologists can be taught to see and understand what is before there very eyes – there is hope for the rest of the world to learn as well.

    All will come out in time – for now, simply note that there is a “fire in the theatre” and we are causing it. You can sit and debate the reality and physics of the fire all you want. You can enter the theatre and get burned. The choice is yours.

    In time you will understand the limits of contemporary neuroimaging, “germ theory” models of disease, and the nuances of why some fires burn “silently” and “invisibly” yet others are clearly seen, hears, felt, and experienced.

    Repeat vaccinations are causing damages – you can call this ischemia, hypoxia, fires or “raindrops.” It matters not what you label it as, the bottom line is that it is real, measurable, and observable.

    Do your homework before confusing the world further with mis-understandings based upon assumptions that you do not challenge let alone know you have.

    Dr Andrew Moulden

  7. dr moulden says:

    addendum:

    “Perivascular inflammation”

    http://www.vaccinerights.com/forensics.html

    Note – this is NOT inflamation doing these damages…although inflammation can soimetimes occur.

    1. Progressive Rubella Panencephalitis – look it up

    2. Post Polio syndrome – look it up

    3. You are looking for germs – it is not the germs.

    4, You are looking for cause in chemistry -cause is never found in chemistry – chemistry is an effect – ask yourself “effect from what” – and you get to cause.

    5. You canot find cause, in death, when the cause, in life (impaired end vascular blood flow in microscirulation units which no imaging tools we use in clincla medicine can see) is present for us all in death – no blood flow.

    6. If you look for inflammation and inflammatory mediators as a cause – then yuo are confusing the cough with the cause of the respiratory symptom.

    7. Inflammation is an effect – a symptom – it does not have to be present despite tissue pathology.

    8. If you cut of blood flow to specific brain areas during neurosurgical aneurysmal repair and create the exact same neurormotor deficits as we see after vaccination (from impaired blood flow), and there is no inflammation in either case – then looking for inflammation to validate what you see with your own eyes will only invalidate what you see as you are relying upon assumptions to negate what is before your very eyes.

    You do not have to see the thief in a ction in order to conslude your store has been robbed. Inflammation is only one sign post what you have been robbed and it is not present, more times than not, as you d not understand the mechanism and process by which the “thief” has robbed you.

    ;-0)(

  8. dr moulden says:

    “Diagnostic Substitution”

    There has been a 1700% increase in the incidence and prevalence of autism-spectrum disorders from 1991 to 2001 – these statistics come from the US dept of health.

    In the same period of time there has been a 30% increase in all neurodevelopmental disabilities.

    Now, using common sense alone, if these children who could not speak, engaged in self harming and stimming behaviors, exhbit a plethora of neurocognitive, neuromotor, and neurosensory problems, requiring specialized care and tutelage, were “mis-labelled” as some other neurodevelopmental disorder in a pre DSM diagnostic alphabet soup, then, with greater specificity of symptom based clinical labelling, we now “correctly” label these children as “autistic” – then we should see a a commensurate decline in the prevalence and incidence of all neurodevelopmental disbailities as these autistic children, who were mis-labelled before, are now being correctly labelled….

    This is not so. Cogito – the problme is new, the problme is real, and the problem was not one of mis-labelling or not identifying what was before our eyes all along.

    This is simply a symptom based change of a pathological sequence that was always with us – we have simply translated “forest fires” for the few into chronic smoldering “brush fires” for us all – the symptoms are different, but the cause is the same.

    ;-)

  9. dr moulden says:

    MASS Zeta Stress Chapter on http://www.BrainGuardMD.com

    http://brainguardmd.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=65&Itemid=61

    Read the pathology report from Dr Daniel Morris – the case of “peaches”..

    they are describing “M.A.S.S.” – a variation of a type IV immune hypersenstivity state from vaccination –

    to quote:
    “in this disease process, dermal ischeima results where small vessels are unable to properly deliver oxygenated blood to the skin (at the vaccine injection site). This has been documented in the scientific literature. Vaccines from several different manufacturers have been implicated, and there are none whihc are known to be entirely “safe” for senstive individuals. The clinical experience of a large cadre of veterinary dermatologists has documented that this disease will be recurent with each repeated vaccination, AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME MORE SEVERE EACH TIME. ….”

    This is M.A.S.S. in action – and it is a common physiological response in all mammals – it is best classified as a Type IV hypersensitivity state – however it is a physiological process that is common to ALL immune hypersesnitivity states from Type I to Type IV – western medicine knows it exists, they simply have not figured out how it happens, let alone how to see it…

    Answers and solution are now available. Answering this problem, in basic physiology, is answering a host of chronic “unknown causes” of disease and disorder -0 least of whihc was vaccine induced autism spectrum.

    ;-0}
    A

  10. Lynne says:

    Holy Mother of God.

    Dr. Moulden, however promising and bright a student you were, you have descended into fullblown crankery. I literally do not have the years of time necessary to visibly dissect for onlookers all the nonsense you have just spouted — which is undoubtedly the point, isn’t it? This is the Gish Gallop of quack medicine. It’s so fast and so easy to lie, especially using false analogy and big words, and cleanup takes so long in order to make a lay audience understand what is wrong with this picture, that it becomes not worth it for someone trying to be accurate and convey the truth. Your predilection for redefining medical terms to suit yourself (but bearing no resemblance whatsoever to how the rest of the medical community understands them) serves you well.

    But I’m going to ask you this simply, and ignore all the other red herrings you just threw down for now:

    If you genuinely think that vaccines cause microvascular injury, please explain exactly WHY you think such injury would not show up on an MRI.

    Let’s start there.

    Give me an exact, technical answer, please.

  11. Lynne says:

    …Also, your information from the US Dept of Health looks suspiciously bogus. Do give us an exact reference, won’t you please? I’m sure you have the page or paper with the exact statistics available for citation, surely?

    I would suggest people go to the horses’s mouth, so to speak:
    http://www.hhs.gov/autism/

    And, funny how you ignore this, from the very same US Dept of Health:
    http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2001pres/01fsautism.html

  12. dr moulden says:

    ;-)
    Ask a neuroradiologist, behavioral neurologist, go look it up yourself – :what are the limits of magnetic resonance imaging”

    If you truly wish to learn, then do the homework. Relying on others to answer your questions and assumptions is what got us into this mess to begin with.

    Start here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging

    If one wishes to the extol the virtue of theory knowledge – then they had best be familiar with the limitations of the tools they rely upon to assert truth.

    Ischemic strokes – simple as that.

    Once you come up with an MRI reference that claims it can image real time blood flow at the angstrom level – then you have a tool to rely upon.

    Answer is quite simple:
    1. No detectable signal
    http://www.musc.edu/fnrd/primer_fmri.htm

    2. MRI (and SPECT for that matter) cannot separate the signal from the noise and lack the spatial resolution to image the problem.

    A

  13. dr moulden says:

    If you wish references and desire to learn – simply get the DVD series – the reference is there.

    Thank-you for these great questions.

    The rest of the work is now up to you. You are free to believe what you wish.

    If your mind is already made up then you will never find truth – you will, however, defend your apriori assumptions rather admirably.

    Best of luck with your on-going search for truth. Your questions are important. Processing what you can learn form these questions will help you break through these beliefs and assumptions you do not know you have.

    US Dept. of Education Annual Reports To Congress.

    Diagnosis of autism is on the rise (Newschaffer, Falb & Gurney, 2005). “There has been a true and significant increase in autism in the U.S.” (Yazbak, 107). According to the US Department of Education Annual Reports to Congress, between 1992 and 2001, there was a 1,700% increase in autism in U.S. Schools, compared to a 30% increase in all other disabilities. Public schools are faced with the challenge of providing appropriate educational environments and accommodations to meet the demands of students with autism. Furthermore, mainstream classroom teachers are often unprepared to teach autistic students who are placed in their classes.

    Newschaffer, C. J., Falb, M. D. , & Gurney, J. G. (2005). National autism prevalence trends from United States special education data. Pediatrics. 115(3), 277-282.

    Virtual Expert Clinics, Inc. (2009, March 9). Virtual expert clinics launches AutismPro, a 21st century response to educating students with autism [Press release]. Retrieved from http://b2e.qeddata.com/story-2222-0.html

    Yazbak, F. E. (2003). Autism in the United States: A Perspective. Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, 8 (4), 103-107.

  14. Leslie says:

    Lynne – As the moderator of this blog – I feel that I need to intercede. Your comments and points are most welcome – however, they are laced with attacks and swear words that undermine your credibility. I have had over 200 comments on different articles and not one has been as unprofessional as yours. This site is meant as an exchange of information – whether or not you agree is fine. But take your anger somewhere else.

  15. Lynne says:

    If my “comments and points are most welcome”, may I ask why my polite ones are blackholed into invisibility into moderation again?

    Is there a particular reason why you do not want those points and questions visible?

  16. Leslie says:

    Lynne the reason is obvious – this is an old post that may or may not be read by a handful of people… it is not a forum where the attention of thousands will be captured. This is where the informed discussions need to take place. Your reputation precedes you here and it is well known that you carry a vendetta on the Gardasil/vaccine issue. I invite you to find a forum that will publish your concerns instead of hounding us on the false principle of virtue and an attempt to portray yourself as the stricken voice of reason on a small and outdated blog post.

  17. Jeffry says:

    The funny thing about people like Lynne is that their evidence is scant and while gasping for air in dire need of ‘proof’ that vaccines are indeed the ‘Sacred Cow’ of medicine, resort to referencing dubious entities such as Dr. Paul Offit, the well-infiltrated-ranks of the CDC, and the pharmaceutical top-heavy organizations such as TwoByTwo and Immunize.org.

    Lynne, your ‘code words’ such as ‘Gish Gallop’ in an attempt to backhandedly and vitriolically discredit Andrew Moulden, merely reveal the snake breast in which you suckle on. Once you realize you are ingesting poison perhaps you can stop spewing it.

    Lynne, I can only surmise that you are in the health field or a ‘Science Based Medicine’ groupie so listen up and listen good. You better do your homework and you better do it now. If you think the CDC has YOUR best interest in mind you need a reality check. The evidence is before you and you choose to turn a blind eye without knowing a g’damn thing.

    Why don’t you spend an afternoon walking at your local mall or perhaps at the next ‘Tupperware’ party you throw; go ask the mothers with autistic children when did they become autistic.

    Then when your thoroughly swirling in denial over the mothers answers because they don’t agree with your ‘Mental Framework’ for reality, go cite for me and the rest of the world a study or official resource on a ‘genetic epidemic’.

    Then explain why Aluminum has NEVER been tested for safety. EVER. Explain why Thimerisol has NEVER been tested for safety, EVER. It’s still in the vaccines. You better do your homework Lynne.

    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t2

    Then take your little Tufted Titmouse to the local pet store and buy it some dinner… because what’s on the menu tonight is making it ill.

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